R1 screw up, the code i uploaded was broken, while cleaning it up on a low res display i deleted a bunch of menuing code, so the menus in the uploaded R1 were broken, code is simple , worth fixing, will upload the working version this evening.....now the good news is design work for R2 moved well and we now have an editor ... and libs...more about that very shortly....there never seems to be too much activity in the gotdotnet boards