ok, some more ranting and little coding, i managed to convince my boss to let me do a particular solution using C#, actually i doubt he cares whether its C#, VB.Net or Swing, He just needs a good app. The entire backend is a mishmash of java, lots of scripting and a bevy of legacy shit with lots of soap calls. The direction of the organization is a java based integration framework, so it should have been a java client app, but luckily with the fairly small user base behind the firewall a web app made no sense. Thus i sold him on a windows stuff client instead of the earlier envisioned JSP's. The purpose of this rant is that i will now be able to run VS.Net on my developer workstation, that means i can do all sorts of WinForms shit whenever i can, and i plan on selling them more WinForms stuff since they are already a Windows shop, the inhouse backend is all windows. Thus i should be able to sneak in some Write Free coding in the meantime. No promises but i will get to finish the Toolbars and maybe work on some more components, I read somewhere that someone had inky components, i went to their website and wasn't able to find any of those components. And like i keep on saying i need inky components, actually i don't but the tablet really needs inky compoenents, Windows has to get very inky fast.....and yes Dell is still wrong about the direction that the Tablet will take....so we are back is the point